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Post by rosa on Sept 23, 2009 5:06:32 GMT -7
Okay Web, here's some fresh meat and I mean the thread, Web. This guy says he can think "outside the box". Would someone please point me to it? www.letsgobesco.com/From a post he made on another politico's fundraising site: .Tim Besco 4:44 am CST April 23, 2009 My question in all this is – WHERE THE HECK IS MY CONGRESSMAN? Reyes is a joke! He has been NOTICEABLY missing from being the point man on this issue. Oh wait, I forgot, he is a democrat who happens to have family over in Juarez and refuses to do anything because he doesn’t want to agitate the cartels and have them do anything to hurt his family.
I am running against this guy for congress next year. I don’t have any qualms about going after the thugs in Juarez. I’ve faced tougher guys in Iraq, and I know that the fence has been a big help in deterring illegals from coming over. I have talked with top officials in the Border Patrol right here in El Paso. They tell me that this legislation is going to be very helpful in keeping our city, state and country safer.
Please go to my website and check out my stances. If you can, please donate. If not, that is fine too. But let me know that I have your support. I read every email, and I take the time to respond in kind.
Thanks! Tim Besco tim@letsgobesco.comFrom a post he made on this site: www.veteransforsecureborders.us/feedback/feedback22.htmlI am a Registered Nurse at on of El Paso's finest hospitals. Every day I pass by several cars in our ER's parking lot that have Chihuahua, Mexico license plates. Many of these folks come here to get the outstanding healthcare we provide and then return to Mexico never to pay us one thin dime. My hospital depends on the reimbursments from Medicare and private insurances to keep in business. Therefore, these illegals steal money out of my pocket.
Also, I see dozens of Mexican plates in the parking lot of my children's public schools. We have a higher than average property tax here in El Paso to pay for our high quality schools. These illegals are taking advantage of my hard work and my tax dollars in order to send their kids (who can't even speak English) to OUR public schools.
I am in no way bigoted toward Mexicans. My wife legally emmigrated here, learned the language, and became a US citizen. Why can't others follow her example?
Tim Besco, El Paso, TX, USN, LTJG, 2002-2006 here is his guide on the health care reform debate, as well as other things tim-besco.livejournal.com/5480.html
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Post by rosa on Sept 23, 2009 5:22:43 GMT -7
Heh
I have been telling you guys and telling you, it is all the Mexicans' fault, here is proof now. This Besco dude has got it, though he doesn't read the liberal press, I guess ;Dwww.nytimes.com/2009/09/22/opinion/22tue3.html?_r=1&th&emc=thEditorial Border Fantasies Published: September 21, 2009 Members of Congress who voted for the Southwest border fence as the fix for illegal immigration professed shock — shock at the news that the project is running years behind, and billions of dollars ahead, of the Bush administration’s early, rosy projections. U.S. Border Patrol Auditors reported last week that the high-tech, 28-mile “virtual” section of the fence was running a mere seven years behind this month’s planned opening. Initially, designers talked of using off-the-shelf technology for the radar, cameras and other sensors, but problems cropped up. (Imagine, discovering that cameras tremble in rough weather.) “I’m trying to figure out why this is so difficult,” said Representative Michael McCaul of Texas. “These are basically cameras on a pole.” The current cost estimate for the Buck Rogers barrier? $1.1 billion. Investigators from the nonpartisan Government Accountability Office report that the larger, actual fence — covering a 600 mile-plus stretch between San Diego and Brownsville, Tex. — cost $2.4 billion to build and will cost an extra $6.5 billion in upkeep across two decades. Investigators also concluded that there’s no good way of gauging the effectiveness of the fence. The current decline in border arrests could be because of the bad economy as much as the fence (which the innovative have already learned to breach with cutters, torches and ladders). Even then, the fence covers only the more manageable third of the border with Mexico. Members of the House border security subcommittee voiced grave concern but didn’t peer much beyond fencing technology to the more complex reality: the need for Congress to reform the nation’s immigration laws. No fence can keep a determined immigrant out or absolve Congress of that responsibility. well, maybe not...but I'll bet them Rangers can!
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Post by Tim Collins on Sept 24, 2009 7:14:39 GMT -7
Okay Web, here's some fresh meat and I mean the thread, Web. This guy says he can think "outside the box". Would someone please point me to it?
Let me see if I can find out where he steps outside the box
www.letsgobesco.com/
From a post he made on another politico's fundraising site:
.Tim Besco 4:44 am CST April 23, 2009 My question in all this is – WHERE THE HECK IS MY CONGRESSMAN? Reyes is a joke! He has been NOTICEABLY missing from being the point man on this issue. Oh wait, I forgot, he is a democrat who happens to have family over in Juarez and refuses to do anything because he doesn’t want to agitate the cartels and have them do anything to hurt his family.
Nope not here - still in the common partisan political box - attack the person and the party. Why not at least peek over the top of the "box" and offer an alternative approach to the cartel problem. How about examining current and past funding provided to assist in fighting the cartels and assessing its effectiveness? How about redefining a clear objective for how any equipment and funds are to be controlled and utilized?
I am running against this guy for congress next year. I don’t have any qualms about going after the thugs in Juarez. I’ve faced tougher guys in Iraq, and I know that the fence has been a big help in deterring illegals from coming over. I have talked with top officials in the Border Patrol right here in El Paso. They tell me that this legislation is going to be very helpful in keeping our city, state and country safer.
Nope not here either. Rambo speaks - if you elect me I will grab my M-16 and go take on these thugs personally. Remember I was in Iraq. First off - if we are to claim our own sovereignty as sacrosanct - we must also respect the sovereignty of Mexico. "Cleaning up" other countries problems - even when they impact us, is not be our role. We have done this many times in the past and the result has been an impression that we see ourselves as the all knowing parent and our southern neighbors as a mis-behaving children. Mexico is a sovereign nation and as such should be dealt with as a diplomatic equal.
As for talking with top Customs/Border Patrol people, thats good, but how do you reconcile what they had to say with your Rambo solution?
Please go to my website and check out my stances. If you can, please donate. If not, that is fine too. But let me know that I have your support. I read every email, and I take the time to respond in kind.
I have gone to his site - nothing new here. Poorly thought out rants - no proposed solutions. For a candidate who seeks to present himself as a conservative - he sure wants to play in state issues a lot. I do not see anything new here.
Thanks! Tim Besco tim@letsgobesco.com
From a post he made on this site: www.veteransforsecureborders.us/feedback/feedback22.html
I am a Registered Nurse at on of El Paso's finest hospitals. Every day I pass by several cars in our ER's parking lot that have Chihuahua, Mexico license plates. Many of these folks come here to get the outstanding healthcare we provide and then return to Mexico never to pay us one thin dime. My hospital depends on the reimbursments from Medicare and private insurances to keep in business. Therefore, these illegals steal money out of my pocket.
License plates and cars? How about some thought that these are PEOPLE seeking medical attention that for some reason is not available elsewhere? How about some compassion for the ill, and the families who seek a better future for their children?
Yes there are dollar costs to us - how large would those costs be if Mexico blew up from the frustration of its own people. Again offering complaints without proposing a solution or course of action is not stepping outside of the box - it is getting comfortable in it and wrapping oneself in the same old blanket.Please research the numbers your annual taxes to support Thomason (University Medical Center) are minimal - less than $500 per year. It seems to me to be a small price to pay to care for those less fortunate than I. See my thoughts on this at Newspapertree.com
Also, I see dozens of Mexican plates in the parking lot of my children's public schools. We have a higher than average property tax here in El Paso to pay for our high quality schools. These illegals are taking advantage of my hard work and my tax dollars in order to send their kids (who can't even speak English) to OUR public schools.
Sorry this is just a xenophobic rant. Propose a change in laws to allow citizenship to be determined for our students and provide a means for these non-citizens to continue schooling. Again - avoiding the personal/people here by hiding under cold impersonal numbers.
I am in no way bigoted toward Mexicans. My wife legally emigrated here, learned the language, and became a US citizen. Why can't others follow her example?
Congratulations for you and your wife. Now what do you propose for all those others yearning for a better life - especially when they can stand on the Mexican side of the Bridge and see what potential there is for a better life? How about refocusing our tax laws and trade agreements so they encourage rising wages in Mexico (and elsewhere) and worker protections, rather than perpetuate low wages for our own consumer benefit. Would it not be better for both our countries if workers there saw a chance at moving up to middle class economically? How does NAFTA even offer this possibility.
Mr. Besco is firmly ensconced in the same old box - he offers complaints and not solutions - same on his site.
Tim Besco, El Paso, TX, USN, LTJG, 2002-2006
here is his guide on the health care reform debate, as well as other things
tim-besco.livejournal.com/5480.html
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Post by rosa on Sept 25, 2009 4:19:09 GMT -7
the "I've faced tougher guys in Iraq" really had me there for a bit. The guy is a nurse. One. Two---he must really be something if he has faced down, confronted or apprehended guys who are "tougher" than those who torture and kill people and then cut them up into pieces and deliver them in coolers to loved ones. Of course, when you are behind a gun, yeah, I guess that makes you "tough", right? "How about examining current and past funding provided to assist in fighting the cartels and assessing its effectiveness? How about redefining a clear objective for how any equipment and funds are to be controlled and utilized?"Sometimes I flirt with the notion that the electorate is fully capable of deciding more on existing policy than the boobs we send to office to do this for us. This is exactly where we need to be; am still looking at the outcome of the conference at UTEP, even this is skewed from what I've heard. The short of it is this: legalizing drugs and tightening rhetoric on enforcement will accomplish little except of course, to tacitly endorse what has gone on south of our borders for ages now. We aren't any better equipped to "control" a drug "trade" in this country than we are to politicize the crap out of it-and look at what we are accomplishing there oh and by the way, for tough guy Tim Besco: they finally released it in the American news --these "pansies" killed a radio DJ , while he was on the air. Something tells me these guys are not afraid of you
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Post by rosa on Sept 25, 2009 4:36:20 GMT -7
"Also, I see dozens of Mexican plates in the parking lot of my children's public schools. We have a higher than average property tax here in El Paso to pay for our high quality schools. These illegals are taking advantage of my hard work and my tax dollars in order to send their kids (who can't even speak English) to OUR public schools." I don't know how long Besco has really been in this area, he says he hails from the midwest, so I'll cut him some slack. In the past several years, there has been an increase in the number of middle to higher income Mexican citizens who have moved here in order to escape the carnage in Juarez. These people, apart from those who have moved back and forth for as long as I can remember, contribute to the tax base-they buy houses, pay plenty of taxes in other ways and their kids have nothing on mine by way of mastering English. As an RN, he's got a set impression of "those people", but so do lots of other people. Some of us have extensive experience with these children, who of course, adapt far more quickly than do their parents sometimes as for me, I wish these folks would get off their butts, along with the folks from New Mexico, register their doggone cars in Texas. But that said, it's misleading to claim they're not paying into our tax base. Many are in varying stages of acquiring citizenship, and this too, is notably absent from his understanding of how things work around here
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